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Well, at least shoot the same Standard Qualification Course (SQC) that we shoot here in Georgia.

STANDARD QUALIFICATION COURSE (SQC)

AMMUNITION: 30 ROUNDS
TARGET: GEORGIA SQT OR SQT-A1 (2 EACH)
MAXIMUM RAW SCORE: 300 POINTS
MINIMUM QUALIFICATION: 240 POINTS - 80 %
(DIVIDE RAW SCORE BY 3 TO OBTAIN PERCENTAGE)

STAGE I: 25 YARD LINE

FROM THE 25 YARD LINE - LOAD EACH MAGAZINE WITH 6 ROUNDS AND RELOAD WHEN NECESSARY.

USING THE ANGULAR SEARCH TECHNIQUE (GEOMETRIC PROGRESSION), ON COMMAND TO "SEARCH" THE SHOOTER WILL ASSUME A COVERED SHOOTING POSITION TO THE RIGHT OF COVER WITH WEAPON POINTED AT THE RIGHT TARGET. THE STUDENT WILL AVOID CONTACT WITH THE COVER OBJECT.

ON THE COMMAND TO FIRE, THE SHOOTER WILL FIRE 1 ROUND IN 4 SECONDS RIGHT TARGET AND RETURN TO COVER.

USING THE ANGULAR SEARCH TECHNIQUE (GEOMETRIC PROGRESSION), ON COMMAND TO "SEARCH" THE SHOOTER WILL ASSUME A COVERED SHOOTING POSITION TO THE RIGHT OF COVER WITH WEAPON POINTED AT THE LEFT TARGET. THE STUDENT WILL AVOID CONTACT WITH THE COVER OBJECT.

ON THE COMMAND TO FIRE, THE SHOOTER WILL FIRE 1 ROUND IN 4 SECONDS LEFT TARGET AND RETURN TO COVER.

DECOCK AND HOLSTER

USING THE ANGULAR SEARCH TECHNIQUE (GEOMETRIC PROGRESSION), ON COMMAND TO "SEARCH" THE SHOOTER WILL ASSUME A COVERED SHOOTING POSITION TO THE LEFT OF COVER WITH WEAPON POINTED AT THE LEFT TARGET. THE STUDENT WILL AVOID CONTACT WITH THE COVER OBJECT.

ON THE COMMAND TO FIRE, THE SHOOTER WILL FIRE 1 ROUND IN 4 SECONDS LEFT TARGET AND RETURN TO COVER.

USING THE ANGULAR SEARCH TECHNIQUE (GEOMETRIC PROGRESSION), ON COMMAND TO "SEARCH" THE SHOOTER WILL ASSUME A COVERED SHOOTING POSITION TO THE LEFT OF COVER WITH WEAPON POINTED AT THE RIGHT TARGET. THE STUDENT WILL AVOID CONTACT WITH THE COVER OBJECT.

ON THE COMMAND TO FIRE, THE SHOOTER WILL FIRE 1 ROUND IN 4 SECONDS RIGHT TARGET AND RETURN TO COVER.

DECOCK AND HOLSTER

STAGE II: 15 YARD LINE

FROM THE 15 YARD LINE, SHOOTER STANDS FACING HIS TARGETS WITH WEAPON HOLSTERED AND SECURED IN THE HOLSTER.

ON THE COMMAND TO FIRE, SHOOTER DRAWS HIS WEAPON, MOVES TO COVER AND FIRES 4 ROUNDS IN 12 SECONDS IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER:

1 ROUND IN THE RIGHT TARGET
1 ROUND IN THE LEFT TARGET

DROP TO A KNEELING POSTION WHILE RELOADING

1 ROUND IN THE RIGHT TARGET
1 ROUND IN THE LEFT TARGET

DECOCK AND HOLSTER A LOADED WEAPON

STAGE III: 7 YARD LINE

ON THE COMMAND, SHOOTER DRAWS HIS AN FIRES 4 ROUNDS IN 5 SECONDS IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER:

2 ROUNDS IN THE RIGHT TARGET
2 ROUNDS IN THE LEFT TARGET

RELOAD AND HOLSTER (RELOAD 2 MAGAZINES WITH 6 ROUNDS EACH)

STANDING IN FRONT OF THE RIGHT TARGET, ON COMMAND, SHOOTER DRAWS AND FIRES THE FOLLOWING IN 6 SECONDS:

2 ROUNDS IN THE RIGHT TARGET
MOVE ONE STEP LEFT
2 ROUNDS IN THE RIGHT TARGET

DECOCK AND HOLSTER

STANDING IN FRONT OF THE LEFT TARGET, ON COMMAND, SHOOTER DRAWS AND FIRES THE FOLLOWING IN 12 SECONDS:

2 ROUNDS IN THE LEFT TARGET
MOVE ONE STEP RIGHT WHILE RELOADING
2 ROUNDS IN THE LEFT TARGET

DECOCK AND HOLSTER

ON THE COMMAND, SHOOTER (FROM A COVER READY POSITION) FIRES A FAILURE DRILL IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER IN 3 SECONDS:

1 ROUND IN THE RIGHT TARGET (HEAD SHOT)
1 ROUND IN THE LEFT TARGET (HEAD SHOT)

DECOCK AND HOLSTER

STAGE IV: 3 YARD LINE

ON THE COMMAND TO FIRE, SHOOTER DRAWS WHILE TAKING ONE STEP BACK AND GIVING VERBAL COMMANDS AND FIRES THE FOLLOWING IN 3 SECONDS:

1 ROUND IN THE RIGHT TARGET
1 ROUND IN THE LEFT TARGET

RELOAD AND HOLSTER

ON THE COMMAND TO FIRE, SHOOTER DRAWS WHILE TAKING ONE STEP BACK AND GIVING VERBAL COMMANDS AND FIRES THE FOLLOWING IN 5 SECONDS:

2 ROUNDS IN THE RIGHT TARGET
2 ROUNDS IN THE LEFT TARGET

COME TO A TRANSITION READY POSITION, EVALUATING THE TARGETS.

ON THE COMMAND TO FIRE, SHOOTER WILL FIRE THE FOLLOWING IN 2 SECONDS:

1 ROUND IN THE RIGHT TARGET
1 ROUND IN THE LEFT TARGET

SCORING: SQT / SQT-A1 WILL BE SCORED AS FOLLOWS: ALL HITS WITHIN CENTER MASS SCORING LINES ("A" ZONE) TO INCLUDE HEAD WILL RECEIVE A 10 POINT VALUE. HITS WITHIN BODY TORSO AND HEAD BUT OUTSIDE "A" ZONE WILL RECEIVE AN 8 POINT VALUE.

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This is the current state course used in the academies. It is a "revolver neutral" course, hence the 6 round loadings.

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Here are pictures of the target. The shots on this course are scored 10 and 8 points respectively. The scoring lines are not pronounced enough to see at any distance.

There is a slightly different version of the course posted above that is used in classes at GPSTC. In those, the scoring areas are 10 and 5 points respectively.

Also, the course posted above may be called slightly differently by differing instructors. This doesn't change the basic format of the course though.

The target can be obtained here:

http://www.americantargetcompany.com/SQT_A1_target.asp
 

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Sounds like its not to bad of a course. The one thing ive always had a problem is with dictating round counts in the gun and on target. We load to capacity in our quals but still have a dictated round count on target.
 

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Sounds like its not to bad of a course. The one thing ive always had a problem is with dictating round counts in the gun and on target. We load to capacity in our quals but still have a dictated round count on target.
The round count is to make it "revolver neutral" and so that everyone is reloading at the same time.

This isn't my favorite course. It was put together by two instructors, at least that's the story, and then adopted by all of the academies. It was also mandated statewide unless agencies submit a substitute course to GALEFI for approval. GALEFI has a committee to make such determinations.
 

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This sounds like an ideal marksmanship test for anyone trying to obtain a CCW.
 

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How often do you have to shoot this? ...or is it just once in the academy?
 

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How often do you have to shoot this? ...or is it just once in the academy?
You have to pass the class to graduate the academy. POST requires qualification at least once a year, but agencies can require more than the minimum.

We have numerous open range days on which we run the course and provide training. Upon arriving at the range, personnel have to declare they intend to shoot for score, which they must do "cold" without any warm up/practice. Personnel can shoot for score as many times as they wish in hopes to bettering their scores, but if they declare that they are shooting for score, they face disciplinary action for failing to qualify. Three successive failing attemps is bad, bad news.

We have the following marksmanship awards:

95-99.99 is a sharpshooter
100 is an expert
100s back to back from cold is a master

Everyone that earns a marksmanship award gets to shoot GSSF matches on the SO's nickel. I rearrange shift schedules for shooters to go to the Conyers match, but I don't for the other matches.

Training typically regresses towards the lowest denomonator, but I instituted a policy this year that anybody getting below an 85 goes through remedial training. Anyone getting 85 or better will go through more advanced training.
 

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Now you just need to do a citizen's day..hint hint :)
 

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Whatever - as long as I can watch. LOL Could be a way to clear some jail space. .... ( I kid I kid)
 

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You have to pass the class to graduate the academy. POST requires qualification at least once a year, but agencies can require more than the minimum.

We have numerous open range days on which we run the course and provide training. Upon arriving at the range, personnel have to declare they intend to shoot for score, which they must do "cold" without any warm up/practice. Personnel can shoot for score as many times as they wish in hopes to bettering their scores, but if they declare that they are shooting for score, they face disciplinary action for failing to qualify. Three successive failing attemps is bad, bad news.

We have the following marksmanship awards:

95-99.99 is a sharpshooter
100 is an expert
100s back to back from cold is a master

Everyone that earns a marksmanship award gets to shoot GSSF matches on the SO's nickel. I rearrange shift schedules for shooters to go to the Conyers match, but I don't for the other matches.

Training typically regresses towards the lowest denomonator, but I instituted a policy this year that anybody getting below an 85 goes through remedial training. Anyone getting 85 or better will go through more advanced training.
Sounds like you have quite a nice training schedule!

No wonder Glock chose your SO to represent them...

I like the citizens idea too... letting them run the course... mot the ...er ...other suggestion...
 

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Sounds like you have quite a nice training schedule!

No wonder Glock chose your SO to represent them...

I like the citizens idea too... letting them run the course... mot the ...er ...other suggestion...
Thank you for the kind words, and I have something in the works that will involve citizens, but it is too early to announce.
 

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10 yrs ago (about) 2 LEO had a shoplifter in a small secruity room in Wally world in Rockford IL. She pulled a gun and after many rounds fired in a small room she was hit once. I dont remember how many rounds were fired but it was quit a few (around 30?). I think I'll just keep shooting the way I always have, It seems to work for me.
 

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10 yrs ago (about) 2 LEO had a shoplifter in a small secruity room in Wally world in Rockford IL. She pulled a gun and after many rounds fired in a small room she was hit once. I dont remember how many rounds were fired but it was quit a few (around 30?). I think I'll just keep shooting the way I always have, It seems to work for me.
The point of this thread was the qualification course being available if anyone wanted to try it.

For comparison purposes, I shot the course with three different pistols recently and shot a 98.0 with my Kimber Tactical HD II for the first shots I ever fired from it, a 97.3 with my Springfield 1911 of questionable parentage, and a 98.6 with my G34.

Combat accuracy supposedly drops to about 20 percent of your normal shooting.
 

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I owe my G38 an apology, a big apology, for only shooting a 94.6 with it today. Bad knees and the kneeling position combined to ruin what would have otherwise been a decent run.

I did better with the 18C and got a 98.0 with it.

Qualified with the 26 and 27 on the BUG course with 100 and a 99 respectively and then shot a 100 on the rifle course with the Mini-14.
 

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10 yrs ago (about) 2 LEO had a shoplifter in a small secruity room in Wally world in Rockford IL. She pulled a gun and after many rounds fired in a small room she was hit once. I dont remember how many rounds were fired but it was quit a few (around 30?). I think I'll just keep shooting the way I always have, It seems to work for me.
That's a pretty broad brush you're painting with there.
 

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I owe my G38 an apology, a big apology, for only shooting a 94.6 with it today. Bad knees and the kneeling position combined to ruin what would have otherwise been a decent run.

I did better with the 18C and got a 98.0 with it.

Qualified with the 26 and 27 on the BUG course with 100 and a 99 respectively and then shot a 100 on the rifle course with the Mini-14.
With the exception of the 38, you did a very nice job today. However, I don't think you should be qualified to handle the 38 so why don't you just let me have it.
 

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With the exception of the 38, you did a very nice job today. However, I don't think you should be qualified to handle the 38 so why don't you just let me have it.
First time I ever shot it was on this course, and I shot a 100 with it. I think I'll keep it. :)
 

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Nice targets! I like how you shot that smart-ass ear ring right off the side of his head. I hate smart-ass ear rings. Of course, putting a bunch of rounds in his chest kinda down plays knocking his smart-ass ear ring off. It's the thought that counts.
 

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Nice targets! I like how you shot that smart-ass ear ring right off the side of his head. I hate smart-ass ear rings. Of course, putting a bunch of rounds in his chest kinda down plays knocking his smart-ass ear ring off. It's the thought that counts.
Well, that wasn't a target that I shot. I was the instructor calling this course of fire and took a picture of the target.
 
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