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Needed something that would stop the slugs (ice). I'd seen ice jug tests on youtube somewhere and they had success.
And still, two of the rounds went through and into the hillside. The federal rund that fragged was stuck in the ice...let it thaw
while shooting targets and got all the pieces.
For me, I really liked that the Remington round expanded and stopped. THATS my new inhouse round!!!
Nope, my cam is so poor... video on it is horrible! In fact, I WAS going to take the cam with me and get a couple pics of the
beautiful AZ desert flora to post...left it on the front table, had to take pics when I got back :-( Oh well, more in the future.
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Where I live, a BB gun would penetrate the phone book! LOL.
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Has anyone had any experience with the power ball ammo?
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Me as well... Dang hard to get sometimes!
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Can be for sure
thanks a lot for taking pics and sharing info, my friend! very nice of you
interesting results. most of the youtube vids i've seen show guys with newsprint and water in the jugs, but i've noticed that frozen water jugs is an emerging trend. it's all good to me. who the hell can afford some real ballistic gelatin lol
no surprise on the hornadys. they're engineered to penetrate more than expand. good stuff if that's what you're looking for. the pdx1 is bonded, but still expands decently (or is supposed to lol).
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Best bet a gun show!
Sent my results to my brother and my nephew (border patrol pilot) and have received comment back. Pasting below for additional perusal...
In the two rounds that did go completely through, (of course the cold plastic was shattered) the actual exit hole did NOT reveal adequate expansion which is probably why they went through. So my conclusion is based solely on not over penetrating, AND that it actually expanded as designed. One of the very common problems I read about, particularly with high price "fancy-smancy" ammo has to due specifically with not expanding properly. For example, the VERY pricey Corbon defense rounds are known for the core "plugging" with many materials (such as thick denim) and failing to expand! Basically, they become a ball round. This has been demonstrated many times with several layers of Levi type material over the front of real ballistic gelatin. Have provided data on this if you've interested. Both the Hornady and the Winchester PDX1 ammos are popular but also known to be subject to this condition depending on the material they're fired into.
Overall, I'm sold on the Remington round. It is also less expensive then the others!
Just since I'm on the subject, here are some great articles:
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot23.htm
http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/Federal_230 gr Hydrashok-Failure to Expand.htm
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/archive/index.php/t-110581.html
Chris
brother:
That also has something to do with the lowest mass bullet. Also, though, we shouldn't conclude too much from how each round penetrates a block of ice (unless you're planning to shoot ice sculptures). One reason for over-penetration of the ice might that in some cases the ice fractured early in the penetration, resulting in little (or reduced) resistance from that point on.
nephew:
The Remington are carried by many Federal Air Marshals...best trade off between knock down without excessive penetration...a good thing when shooting people in an airplane. Glad you like them!
In the two rounds that did go completely through, (of course the cold plastic was shattered) the actual exit hole did NOT reveal adequate expansion which is probably why they went through. So my conclusion is based solely on not over penetrating, AND that it actually expanded as designed. One of the very common problems I read about, particularly with high price "fancy-smancy" ammo has to due specifically with not expanding properly. For example, the VERY pricey Corbon defense rounds are known for the core "plugging" with many materials (such as thick denim) and failing to expand! Basically, they become a ball round. This has been demonstrated many times with several layers of Levi type material over the front of real ballistic gelatin. Have provided data on this if you've interested. Both the Hornady and the Winchester PDX1 ammos are popular but also known to be subject to this condition depending on the material they're fired into.
Overall, I'm sold on the Remington round. It is also less expensive then the others!
Just since I'm on the subject, here are some great articles:
http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot23.htm
http://www.hipowersandhandguns.com/Federal_230 gr Hydrashok-Failure to Expand.htm
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/archive/index.php/t-110581.html
Chris
brother:
That also has something to do with the lowest mass bullet. Also, though, we shouldn't conclude too much from how each round penetrates a block of ice (unless you're planning to shoot ice sculptures). One reason for over-penetration of the ice might that in some cases the ice fractured early in the penetration, resulting in little (or reduced) resistance from that point on.
nephew:
The Remington are carried by many Federal Air Marshals...best trade off between knock down without excessive penetration...a good thing when shooting people in an airplane. Glad you like them!
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Good links, thanks Vol!
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Voted. For 9mm I'm currently using Winchester PDX1 124gr, but also have Federal HST 124gr and Speer gold Dot 115gr stocked up.
for my LCR I have PXD1 130gr 38 special +P. Anything heavier kicks too much for my taste on such a light revolver.
My little NAA has 22 magnum Hollow points, don't recal the brand
for my LCR I have PXD1 130gr 38 special +P. Anything heavier kicks too much for my taste on such a light revolver.
My little NAA has 22 magnum Hollow points, don't recal the brand
interesting data
Here's an interesting chart I found to be of interest...
http://www.handloads.com/misc/stoppingpower.asp?Caliber=0
Here's an interesting chart I found to be of interest...
http://www.handloads.com/misc/stoppingpower.asp?Caliber=0
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.40S&W 165g-180g would be my choice all the way
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