[KeithD]

Personally im a big fan of the 9mm, thats another thread. I carry a g17 cut down to a G19 grip. easier to conceal but still have the benefits of a longer barrel and sight base.

 

[KeithD]

easier to conceal. and who says you might not have to engage threats out to 100 yds with your pistol?

 

[KeithD]

that's a tough sell of a threat at a 100 yards with a pistol.

So say your picking up your kids at elementary school. Ours has an after school program where this kids can play on the play ground after school until the parents can pick them up.

You roll in get out of your car and hear shots. You dont carry a rifle or trunk gun (another issue) you take off and you see a guy at 80 yds with an AK pluggin 5 year olds like baby seals.

You have a clean line of sight and nothing in your targets foreground or back ground. Making distance would mean covering 80 yds with no cover. Can you make combat effective hits with your pistol at that distance? Would you be justified?

 

[KeithD]

Your kidding right?

 

[KeithD]

What does that have to do with anything. I know what my abilities are and how far I can shoot. I have well over 180 hours of formal training will top tier Instructors this year alone, along with hundreds of hours on the clock live fire training, hundreds of hours dry manipulations, and hundreds of hours training students. This allows me to know what im capable of doing.

You can say that i watch to much TV all you want, you have no idea what how i train and what i train for. How many thousands rounds i put down the range per week.

I know what id do to save human lives regardless what the law says. And i for one would not let 5 year old kids get murdered over the fact that I may get "hung out to dry"

Thats called mindest

Hey joey, how big was that steel that we were ringing on saturday? Was that about 80-90 yds?

 

[KeithD]

not much i guess.

1000's/week

simple question, how much time you put in on the range shooting targets at 80-100 yards and with what pistol?

Yes between 9 mike, .380, 5.56 and 5.45

yeah, you're right, that 1/2 to an 1" longer sight radius is all that's needed for this 80 yard kill shot?

It seems now were making moot points over the fact that yes, i can, and many others can hit a 15 inch steel plate at 80 + yards.

Look its nothing special, its pure fundamentals. Line up the sights, proper trigger control thats it. Nothing secret squirrel about it.

I was shooting a G17 and I think Joey was using his full size M&P. As far as dedicated 100 yd shots in practice? very few. Anyone that has proper fundamentals can do it.

Look the point is this? Am I ever going to need to shoot a threat out past 50 yds? Dunno. Do I feel that with a clear foreground and back ground I could take a 50+ yds shot and be effective? yes.

Its another tool in the tool box. Like I said will i ever use it? dunno. But i'll probably never have to use my carry pistol, yet im prepared to.

not much i guess.

1000's/week

simple question, how much time you put in on the range shooting targets at 80-100 yards and with what pistol?

Does it hurt?

 

[KeithD]

no offend, the school was just my example. Put it into any context you may find yourself in.

have a good night.

 

[KeithD]

lol, you are right about that.