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Oh ok sorry I really thought I was missing something
 

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I want to get a 19.....I have a 26 now, which I use for cc. I was waiting for the Gen4, but have heard that the trigger's heavier than the gen3, that the recoil spring is a piggyback, like my 26, and the latest assembly (#3) is identical to the one used in the 23, which makes no sense to me. I've heard people brag that they only get one or two FTF's per box......although I'm still waiting for my first one after at least a thousand rounds.

I guess my question is......why did they mess with the springs and the trigger.....when the 19 was a perfect weapon as it was. Also, what is your personal experience shooting it? Thanks.
 

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I guess my question is......why did they mess with the springs and the trigger.....when the 19 was a perfect weapon as it was. Also, what is your personal experience shooting it? Thanks.
The reason for messing with the recoil spring was to attempt to reduce recoil. Personally, I can't tell a difference between the recoil on my Gen3 and Gen4.

Why did they mess with the trigger assembly? I have no idea. It is heavier out of the box but after a bunch of dry firing, a little lube, and a (-) connector mine is just as nice as my Gen3. They feel pretty similar.

I won't lie. I have had a few stovepipes in my Gen4 that I NEVER experienced with my Gen3. It isn't limp wristing. I know that for a fact. I did just clean my extractor really well so that might do the trick. It was pretty gunked up. Do I trust it? Yes, without hesitation.

The draw for me wasn't the recoil assembly stuff. It was the reduced grip size when not using a back strap and the more aggressive texture. I love those two features.
 

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I've also heard that the gen 4 G19 spring is the same spring as used in the gen4 G23... I don't know if that's actually true or not... If it is true (and I would be surprised if it was) they probably did it to save money (profit).

I have also heard that a new recoil spring is in the works for the 4th gen G19... I guess it will be an update for the G19 similar to the 02 spring for the gen 4 G17...

I've only shot my 4th gen G19 once... about 50 rounds... no fails for me... not many rounds, though...
 

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I guess my question is......why did they mess with the springs and the trigger.....when the 19 was a perfect weapon as it was.
This is the perfect question....to which there is only one answer. 19/3
 

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This is the perfect question....to which there is only one answer. 19/3
It's fixable. Mine is just as good now.
I understand those who seek out a different grip for personal comfort, but aside from that, why pay more for a gun that has to be fixed to operate as well as it's cheaper, more proven predecessor?
 

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I hear you. However, I don't think what I did to my gun was necessarily a "fix". I consider it more of a "break in" that I didn't experience with my Gen3. I agree GLOCK could have probably done a better job with the "out of the box" feel of the trigger.
 

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I understand those who seek out a different grip for personal comfort, but aside from that, why pay more for a gun that has to be fixed to operate as well as it's cheaper, more proven predecessor?
Because it has the potential to be a better gun!
 

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Because it has the potential to be a better gun!
How so?

Personally, I'm surprised that Glock would market a "new & improved" version of it's best gun ever until they were sure it was "better". I've experienced none of this and heard the same from others who've tried the 19/4. Worse trigger feel, springs needed to be upgraded, FTFs, fixing necessary or break in required, etc. Sorry, but they shouldn't have marketed 19/4 until it was "BETTER" than 19/3.....and obviously it's not yet.

You just don't replace success with the "potential to be a better gun". You wait until you have a better gun to replace it with. JMHO
 

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How so?

Personally, I'm surprised that Glock would market a "new & improved" version of it's best gun ever until they were sure it was "better". I've experienced none of this and heard the same from others who've tried the 19/4. Worse trigger feel, springs needed to be upgraded, FTFs, fixing necessary or break in required, etc. Sorry, but they shouldn't have marketed 19/4 until it was "BETTER" than 19/3.....and obviously it's not yet.

You just don't replace success with the "potential to be a better gun". You wait until you have a better gun to replace it with. JMHO
My reply was an answer to the question: "Why buy a 4th generation Glock."

I am not able to answer your question: "Why didn't Glock do a better job with the 4th generation Glocks"

I do think the 4th generation Glocks will be superior to the 3rd generation Glocks. That's why I bought two of them. My G17/4 works fine and is (arguably) superior to a G17/3. The new G19/4 recoil spring is supposed to be available in two weeks and will (hopefully) make the G19/4 superior. IAE, I will be glad I have the newer versions.
 
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