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picked up my G23 in January to use as a carry gun. i like having 13 rounds ready to go, versus the 5 in my 44mag. So far I've put 400+ rounds through it and have had hardly any problems with it, except for this one. i can't hit the broad side of the barn with the gun. i honestly think I'd be better off carrying empty and throwing it at the bad guy. it shoots low, high, right, left. With that being said i can group my shots very well with my 44 and 22. I'm not sure if its me, the ammo(I've heard some guns prefer lighter ammo), or the gun. I haven't run into any "my glock 23 can't hit sh*t!" posts through google so i figure its either the ammo, or me.

I'm open to all and any tips that you think might help. whether its target ammo to use or tips on shooting, etc.

i've been shooting 180gr FMJ through it so far.

thanks in advance
 

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yeah my dad popped off a few rounds with it and was having the same issues i am having with it. i was thinking about putting an adjustable sight on it, but i can't get it to group right now so that doesn't seem like a good idea right now
 

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I would try shooting at about 5 yds with 165 gr ammo. I dont think adjustable sight would help. 1 the factory sights are or should be lined up strait down the barrel 2 your groups are scattered. Have you ever shot a semi auto much before? Try doing some dry firing to see how your trigger control is.
 

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Neither me or my dad have shot semi auto much before. the only experience i have had with them before this was a hi-point .380. it was no where near as....snappy as this is.
I'll run and grab some 165gr ammo, and work on the trigger control.
Thanks for the help
 

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To me, the Glock trigger takes a bit of getting used to. Could be the issue for you, especially coming from revolvers.

Some may disagree, but I say use the tip of your finger. Make sure you're not using the pad under the first knuckle, or that joint. Use just the tip, and as always, squeeze, dont pull. Feel the trigger. Feel it creep back, and feel it break clean. Follow through to the rear, let the trigger reset, then repeat. Shoot slow at first, till you get the feel for it, then gradually decrease the time between shots.

If you're not used to the "snappiness" of the .40, you could be anticipating the recoil. Grab a snap cap or two, and have someone else load your mag for you, slipping the snap caps in where you dont know they're coming. This will A) most likely show a horrible flinch, and B) help you to correct that problem. Also can practice clearing jams this way, since this is your first semi-auto.

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As mentioned earlier the trigger is different on a Glock and takes some getting used to.

Probably a combination of the .40 snappiness and trigger control.

Patience and practice should take care of it. Start of at 15 ft as opposed to 30 ft.
 

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It's the trigger ... It takes a while to get used to it. Dry fire a lot. Once you get it understood ... there is nothing better.
 

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picked up my G23 in January to use as a carry gun. i like having 13 rounds ready to go, versus the 5 in my 44mag. So far I've put 400+ rounds through it and have had hardly any problems with it, except for this one. i can't hit the broad side of the barn with the gun. i honestly think I'd be better off carrying empty and throwing it at the bad guy. it shoots low, high, right, left. With that being said i can group my shots very well with my 44 and 22. I'm not sure if its me, the ammo(I've heard some guns prefer lighter ammo), or the gun. I haven't run into any "my glock 23 can't hit sh*t!" posts through google so i figure its either the ammo, or me.

I'm open to all and any tips that you think might help. whether its target ammo to use or tips on shooting, etc.

i've been shooting 180gr FMJ through it so far.

thanks in advance
Ok, funny thing is I just bought my G23 two days ago and less than two hours ago returned from putting 200 rds through it. 165 grain Remington JHP's. I started off with the same problem. At 15 yards I couldn't hit diddly. Two mags, no holes in my shoot n c targets, from a rest. I began to question my sanity, or whether these were new frangible ghost rounds. It's the trigger. This was my first hands on with a Glock, and trust me. It's the trigger. I have shot expert on every weapon I have put into my hands since 1992. The Glock trigger is different than any other trigger you will every caress with your trigger finger. Get a tad more meat on it than you would others, just dont touch the trigger with the crease of the first knuckle. Before I finished the first box of 100 I had closed in on the target. Though, in my former USMC opinion there is MUCH room for improvement. When I neared the end of the 2nd box I was able to group all rounds on the target, just not in the grouping I wanted. I have training that allows me to adjust my grip, sight picture/alignment and trigger control. It still took me nearly 200 rounds to get it right. I'll have at least 8-10" groupings by the time I finish the next box of 100, and down to 4-6" by the box after. Hang with it and stick to your basics: stance, grip, sight picture, breathing, trigger control. Do the same thing over and over and you will figure out what isn't correct in your form and I promise you, you'll have her hittin the 'G' spot in no time.
 

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sounds like trigger control.
a friend and i went to the range the 4th with my two nines and his 19 and 229/40.
i had never fired a glock and had better groups at 15 yds/3" than my 226, part of why i got the 23 on the 10th.
i haven't been to the range with the 23 but look forward to getting away from the long da pull on the sigs.
 

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There are several fixes to the problem you seem to be experiencing. Most have already been mentioned. Autos are alot different from shooting revolvers. Start a little closer to the target. Do some dry fire exercises with the pistol to get more used to it. Also, most people do not shoot a glock correctly to begin with. Do not let the trigger go all the way forward after firing a shot. It only needs to go forward about 1/4 of the way.

You should feel it re-engage the rear of the striker. Practice this with some dry fire but please make sure the gun is unloaded. That will make the average shooter both faster and more accurate when they have the technique down. Also, stop jerking on the trigger remember the basics slow staedy rearward pressure no jerking. Let the pistol surprise you when it goes off.

Something else you can do is mix snap caps in the mag with your ammo. Load up the mags with the caps in different places so you don't know when it is going to go pow or just click. Keeping you eyes open and watching this especially when the gun just goes click will tell you exactely what you are doing. Most are amased at the muzzle movement they get and are then able to work on correcting the problems. Hope this helps
 

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I would say that its not deffinitly all in the trigger. If you were shooting consistanly low left (or right if left handed) then yes. But if your spreading them out high also there are a couple of different things going on.

One is Trigger control. Alot of shooters tend to shoot low left. That is a trigger control issue. Its a "GO NOW" mantality when you sights are on target and your mashing the trigger causing you to drop low left. See it in all my classes and its an easy fix. While dry fire will get you used to the recoil it does very little to help most people with anticipating recoil.

When you are at home with dry fire you know the gun is unloaded and isnt going to go bang and recoil. Ive seen people do dry fire trigger excersises a thousand times and not flinch at all, then go to the range and start mashing rounds again.

As others stated the best way to get over this is using ball and dummy drills.

As far as the high shots it 99 percent of the time your breaking sight picture right before the shot.
 
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