[Rob]

So this morning, a Santa Barbara Independent writer decided to vent about open carrying in his local Starbucks. He tells a story of about a year ago when 3 armed plain clothes men came in and how he demanded to the manager for them to leave.

The manager basicly told him that if he's so worried about it to tell them himself!

"No," I said (as nearly as I can recall at this point in time). "I live in a civilian society, and having these fellows - likely good guys, so what? - practicing 'open carry' of their guns in Santa Barbara County is wrong. Ask them to leave, or to go lock up their weapons in their car. Are these weapons loaded? Do you really know who they are?"

Go read this for yourself: http://www.independent.com/news/2010/apr/11/open-carry-starbucks/

(it probably wouldn't hurt to reply on their site either)

 

[DonSmithnotTMD]

The fear was almost palpable. He should never leave California or real life might intrude.

 

[blackriderhank]

Sheep will always baa when they are killed. These posters should shut up and do as they are told, drink the cool aid It will make you a better person. Sorry about the violent rant but people need to get a grip on reality.Guns don't kill, people do.

 

[DonSmithnotTMD]

It reminds me of a blog I read once. The guy went to NYC and found a "scrappy, up and coming neighborhood". Some time later, he was mugged and went back to Iowa or wherever. The hipsters love the idea of violence and struggle, but when they have to do it, that's different.

 

[Mteagle1]

Not a problem in our Starbucks as open carry is not allowed. But then open carry is not allowed in any town or within the confines of an organized logging camp in this state. We are a 'shall issue' state, if you have had a minimum of 8 hours of instruction and are issued a certificate that you can safely handle a firearm and are not otherwise prohibitted from having a firearm. Permit replaces the need for a NICS check when purchasing a firearm but not the paper work requirements. Physical address is required as permits are issued by county sheriffs.

 

[blackriderhank]

Please eductate family and friends of our 2A RIGHTS whenever you can. These rights SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!!!!!!!! I don't want to hear any more BS about how 2A can be intrepitaded diffrently than what it plainly states, backed up by opinions and writings by our founding fathers. On a lighter note anybody got an Abrams A1 tank for sale? Don't get me wrong, I don't need one, but I want one.

 

[WarDawg45]

On a lighter note anybody got an Abrams A1 tank for sale? Don't get me wrong, I don't need one, but I want one.

I'll go in for half with ya, but we could probably get a Russian T-1 for about $4 grand, free shipping and maintenenace for a year...

 

[DonSmithnotTMD]

Not a problem in our Starbucks as open carry is not allowed. But then open carry is not allowed in any town or within the confines of an organized logging camp in this state. We are a 'shall issue' state, if you have had a minimum of 8 hours of instruction and are issued a certificate that you can safely handle a firearm and are not otherwise prohibitted from having a firearm. Permit replaces the need for a NICS check when purchasing a firearm but not the paper work requirements. Physical address is required as permits are issued by county sheriffs.

That's enlightening. I always thought of Montana as one of the more free states.

I'll go in for half with ya, but we could probably get a Russian T-1 for about $4 grand, free shipping and maintenenace for a year...

I don't think they come with the drivetrain warranty though.

 

[__jb]

Guns sure do spark up a lot of controversy... If they were really "government guys that train close to hear" you would think that they would have some sort of LEO badge... or something...

Other than that, the guy that wrote the article was a jerk...

 

[sfguard]

This is on example of the kind of stupidity we are up against. The others would be the gangbangers that these people feed off of. One of my favorite parts is when HE was trying to get the manager who he later said was a she to go over and express HIS opinion. What a coward

 

[20SF]

Not a problem in our Starbucks as open carry is not allowed. But then open carry is not allowed in any town or within the confines of an organized logging camp in this state. We are a 'shall issue' state, if you have had a minimum of 8 hours of instruction and are issued a certificate that you can safely handle a firearm and are not otherwise prohibitted from having a firearm. Permit replaces the need for a NICS check when purchasing a firearm but not the paper work requirements. Physical address is required as permits are issued by county sheriffs.

Since when is Montana not an open carry state??? I grew up in Montana, and I open carried there all the time, as did many many other people. This is sad news if MT is the state you are referring to!

In fact I used to carry a scoped 8 3/8" model 29 .44 mag on my hip all the time when I was 18 years old and never got any crap.. come to think of it, that's a really good reason to not give someone crap

 

[EdF702]

I think my Dad said it best.... "California.... The land of Fruits and Nuts!"

 

[kaboom]

I think my Dad said it best.... "California.... The land of Fruits and Nuts!"

I say that all the time.....It would be really funny if it wasn't true.....

I apologize if I offend any member of this forum.....but California is the only state that is WORSE than New York...

 

[sinisterbud]

why is that because we can open carry with out a permit or because some one comes here from the mid west and gets scared when they see us carry guns

 

[coop]

Maybe what the writer of the story doesn't understand, is that the document that gives him the right or speak what he believes or thinks, gives others the right have guns.

So if my gun offends you, then please don't write another word.

 

[MacA]

..So if my gun offends you, then please don't write another word.

ABSOLUTELY!!! Well said!

 

[reverendg]

Apparently he stopped reading the Bill of Rights after the first amendment, the rest of it wasn't that important to him.

 

[USAntigoon]

On the same subject, listen to this interview on our WJR radio between Frank Beckmann (radio host) and the Mayor of Royal Oak (MI) about "open carry" during special events.. In this case their yearly "Arts, Beats and Eats" event.
This is how they are nibbling aways our rights..

p.s Their city council wants the MI law to be "amended" (tweaked that is) but the Mayor, who attended the events for 4 days, never saw a gun...Unbelievable....

http://www.wjr.net/FlashPlayer/default.asp?SPID=34613&ID=1955785

 

[justme]

As was told to me by a fellow member one day after a lady told him "you know, guns kill people don;t you?!" He replied "if guns kill people then mine must be broken, guess I need to send it in for repairs". Made me laugh so had got coffee through the nose.

Note to self, never take a drink from the coffee cup before reading anything.

 

[cajun_chooter]

If you were planning to buy any kind of gun... do it before the so called president announces his plan to take away our 2nd Admendment.. his plans are for a ban on any magazine over 6 rds... all assault will be banned... and from what i am hearing.. government will have to approve any gun sale .. we are being prepaired for history to repeat itself .. as in the Nazi's and the Jews..