Screw the camera...
The guy needs to buy a garage door...
The guy needs to buy a garage door...
Home invasion -- owner and bad guy draw guns on each other
If you were the owner, what do you think you would've done? I think everyone's lucky no one was hurt, but it might've been dumb luck.
I honestly don't know what I would've done myself...
http://www.fox2now.com/news/ktvi-homeowner-burglar-point-guns-each-other-120810,0,553236.story
I honestly don't know what I would've done myself...
http://www.fox2now.com/news/ktvi-homeowner-burglar-point-guns-each-other-120810,0,553236.story
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Yup gotta agreeScrew the camera...
The guy needs to buy a garage door...
LOL. Couple of other things I noticed:
-- Good guy knew there were 2 BG's when he saw the camera but only had 1 BG in his sights, good guy could've easily been flanked.
-- I'm surprised he even went in the garage, which looks like it's free standing. Wonder if he called 911 before charging in there. I probably would've stayed holed up in the main part of the property.
Yes, it's armchair quarterbacking, but it's one of the ways to learn...
-- Good guy knew there were 2 BG's when he saw the camera but only had 1 BG in his sights, good guy could've easily been flanked.
-- I'm surprised he even went in the garage, which looks like it's free standing. Wonder if he called 911 before charging in there. I probably would've stayed holed up in the main part of the property.
Yes, it's armchair quarterbacking, but it's one of the ways to learn...
Yeah, confronting multiple suspects especially if one or maybe both is armed is not a good situation to put yourself in. Especially by yourself.LOL. Couple of other things I noticed:
-- Good guy knew there were 2 BG's when he saw the camera but only had 1 BG in his sights, good guy could've easily been flanked.
-- I'm surprised he even went in the garage, which looks like it's free standing. Wonder if he called 911 before charging in there. I probably would've stayed holed up in the main part of the property.
Yes, it's armchair quarterbacking, but it's one of the ways to learn...
is it just me, or does the video look staged?
It looks very fishy. Run down garage, with what appeared to be a new tarp covering the front door. Garage seemed to be empty and yet there was a nice new camera there with the wire exposed and easily cut. Just doesn't look right.is it just me, or does the video look staged?
I to never have to pull the trigger on anyone ... EVER. I NEVER want to be in that situation ... EVER.
There is a lot odd about this particular incident but I will only say this ... I won't let a BG point a gun at me. He might do it but he will regret it. There's simply no telling what's going through his mind at that moment ... or if he's even in his right mind. He might be a "good boy that made some bad decisions, just trying to turn his life around". Maybe he is hoping to go college or start a career as a rapper. SO what ... don't point a gun at me in my home. It'll be the last thing you do.
There is a lot odd about this particular incident but I will only say this ... I won't let a BG point a gun at me. He might do it but he will regret it. There's simply no telling what's going through his mind at that moment ... or if he's even in his right mind. He might be a "good boy that made some bad decisions, just trying to turn his life around". Maybe he is hoping to go college or start a career as a rapper. SO what ... don't point a gun at me in my home. It'll be the last thing you do.
911 and watch the video, didn't look like here was much for them to take
I do agree with this 100%. If no one is in immediate danger no need to confront.911 and watch the video, didn't look like here was much for them to take
I agree... It looked like he was inviting crooks into the garage so he could confront them and videotape everything... He's lucky he didn't get shot for his efforts...is it just me, or does the video look staged?
Plus, he should stop carrying a gun... I agree with Vol... If a criminal points a gun at you and you don't shoot them... You need to get rid of your gun...
I would never have ventured into that garage under the circumstances depicted in the video... But... If I was in those circumstances and the robber aimed his gun at me... I would probably have shot him...
He wouldn't be the first. Although, I hope there will never be anotherI to never have to pull the trigger on anyone ... EVER. I NEVER want to be in that situation ... EVER.
There is a lot odd about this particular incident but I will only say this ... I won't let a BG point a gun at me. He might do it but he will regret it. There's simply no telling what's going through his mind at that moment ... or if he's even in his right mind. He might be a "good boy that made some bad decisions, just trying to turn his life around". Maybe he is hoping to go college or start a career as a rapper. SO what ... don't point a gun at me in my home. It'll be the last thing you do.
Another one in agreement!I do agree with this 100%. If no one is in immediate danger no need to confront.
When I was a LEO firearms instructor, we would discuss what would happen if a bad guy and an officer would draw and point at each other at the exact same time... what would happen?
In the high majority of cases, the officer would be shot first. The reasoning was based on the morality of each shooter. Most police officers come from a middle-class-morality based environment. The crook comes from a low-class-morality base. This has nothing to do with financial standings. There are very high-class-morality based people in poverty (Mother Theresa), and very low-class-morality based people in the upper crust of finance (Bernie Madoff, etc). It all has to do with what values are being held.
Most police officers value life and property, while the crook couldn't care less about anything but themselves. So, both guns are drawn, aimed, and the officer goes down first. That's why reactionary shooting must be indoctrinated into the officer. When the LEO sees the threat, he must instinctively shoot it. Preferably multiple times. Don't ever think that the bad guy is going to have a revelation, "I better lower my gun. That's a cop!" No. He's going to think, "F-U. BANG!" All the while, the poor officer is thinking, "I don't want to shoot him. I hope he drops his gun." Then it all goes dark. It all happens in mili-seconds. If you have to think about it, it's too late.
In the high majority of cases, the officer would be shot first. The reasoning was based on the morality of each shooter. Most police officers come from a middle-class-morality based environment. The crook comes from a low-class-morality base. This has nothing to do with financial standings. There are very high-class-morality based people in poverty (Mother Theresa), and very low-class-morality based people in the upper crust of finance (Bernie Madoff, etc). It all has to do with what values are being held.
Most police officers value life and property, while the crook couldn't care less about anything but themselves. So, both guns are drawn, aimed, and the officer goes down first. That's why reactionary shooting must be indoctrinated into the officer. When the LEO sees the threat, he must instinctively shoot it. Preferably multiple times. Don't ever think that the bad guy is going to have a revelation, "I better lower my gun. That's a cop!" No. He's going to think, "F-U. BANG!" All the while, the poor officer is thinking, "I don't want to shoot him. I hope he drops his gun." Then it all goes dark. It all happens in mili-seconds. If you have to think about it, it's too late.
You are correct!
I train shoot first and fast!
Do not stop shooting until bg is on the ground and un-armed not moving! Shoot to stop!
I train shoot first and fast!
Do not stop shooting until bg is on the ground and un-armed not moving! Shoot to stop!
Unfortunately I've seen situations in training that back up what you are sayinig reference the morality issue. Training with officers doing room clearing and literally many would see the gun on the perp (me) and freeze. Actually had to scream at some to shoot me (sim ammo). Definitely an eye opener for many officers who only get range time, much less many civilians. Many claim they'd shoot first and ask questions later, but when you shoot your neighbor from two doors down who just moved in and was attempting to stop someone he saw breaking in to your garage.............. These are some pretty complex issues and this is a discussion that could go on for years. Personally I think the video was BS.
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