[X03WOLF]

Hello all!

I'm new to this forum, and I had a couple questions that I was hoping y'all could potentially help with. I recently purchased a Glock 23 second generation. Beautiful piece of craftsmanship if you ask me, but at the range today I was wondering about the slight muzzle-flip I was experiencing. I've been told that it is common among compact .40s. But I've shot .45s in the same class that flipped less. My real question is, what are the best guide-rod/ spring replacements that would help combat that flip?

Thanx,
Wolf

 

[dirtys0uthfl1]

I have owned a 23 for 7 years now and I can't say it has any serious muzzle flip. I'm a fairly big dude, 6'2" almost 230, not sure that makes a difference. It may be your grip, I've read and watched videos on youtube and it seems like a hard grip and keeping your arms straight out can help. Give it a shot. HAHA, literally.

 

[X03WOLF]

Thanks man, I'm closer to 5'8" 165, but that's something I'll definitely be trying at the range next time.

Wolf

 

[VolGrad]

My real question is, what are the best guide-rod/ spring replacements that would help combat that flip?

Welcome. Leave the stock parts. They work. Work on your grip. I don't lock out my arms completely but leave a very slight bent at the elbows. Some folks talk about 60/40 pressure or 50/50 pressure from each hand during the grip. Travis Haley said something kind of interesting in the Magpul Dynamics Handgun DVD set. He said forget all that and give it 100%. Technically, I guess if you grip 100% with each hand that makes the split 50/50 but you get the point. Grip very firm with each hand, with equal pressure. This will help minimize the muzzle flip but most importantly will keep the muzzle from flipping offline toward your weak hand. The equal pressure will at least keep it on the center line and make it easie to get back on target quickly. I hope that made sense.

 

[VolGrad]

... and the muzzle flip of a .40s&w is more pronounced than a .45acp. That's normal but unexpected my a lot of folks. If it bothers you and you can't move past it I suggest going with a G19. It's the same frame/size as your G23 but in 9mm. You will most likely find it more controllable and with quality carry ammo you shouldn't feel out gunned. If somoene tells you a 9mm isn't sufficient for SD you should start looking elsewhere for info.

 

[TXGlockShooter]

I've been shooting my G23 for some time now and I haven't experienced the muzzle flip your talking about. Like everyone has said prior, you might want to work on your grip and don't forget to relax. The G23 platform is a damn good one so take your time and tame that beast.

 

[jlw]

The .40Sw is a higher pressure round than is the ACP. You'll get a more pronounced/snappier flip with a .40SW and more of a push with an ACP.

 

[Tshark]

I have to agree try using a better grip. Check out this video.

That is me in the video. It's my first video, try to be gentle.

 

[Don Glock]

the 40cal operates at higher pressure than the .45, so it flips more. it has snappy recoil, whereas the .45 is more of a push. if it bothers you, i would try a wolff uncaptured recoil assembly with an 18lb spring.

 

[Tshark]

the 40cal operates at higher pressure than the .45, so it flips more. it has snappy recoil, whereas the .45 is more of a push. if it bothers you, i would try a wolff uncaptured recoil assembly with an 18lb spring.

Absolutely right on about .45 recoil. Every time I am reminded of that, I think about adding a .45 Glock to my collection.

 

[jlw]

Absolutely right on about .45 recoil. Every time I am reminded of that, I think about adding a .45 Glock to my collection.

Check out the GAP. It shoots wonderfully soft, on the shooter's end that is.

 

[Tshark]

Check out the GAP. It shoots wonderfully soft, on the shooter's end that is.

Ha ha. Thats good. Every now and then I do find my self drawn to the GAP. I think there might be one in my future.

 

[MajorFlinch]

i own a G23 and dont notice anything crazy about muzzle flip. i think as compared to other similar .40 pistols it has minimal muzzle flip. i know it has less then the XD.

 

[X03WOLF]

Thank you to everyone who has posted so far, there have been some very helpful tips. By no means stop adding though, I'm sure that I'm not the only one who can benefit from this thread. Plus I feel like there's more to be said.

Thanx all,
Wolf

 

[X03WOLF]

I've been doing a little research, and I was pondering trading my gen 2 G23 for a gen 4 G23. I love the platform, and I intend to mod either weapon. (Extended slide stop, 3.5 connector, SS guide rod XS night sights) So I was wondering if it would even be worth the time, the gen 2 is still in great shape and has many years left in her.

Thanks,
Wolf

 

[sfguard]

the 40cal operates at higher pressure than the .45, so it flips more. it has snappy recoil, whereas the .45 is more of a push. if it bothers you, i would try a wolff uncaptured recoil assembly with an 18lb spring.

This is true about the higher pressure. Also, true about the spring it would help some. The Glock 40 comes stock with a 15lbs captured spring. The 18lbs spring would absorb a little more of the recoil. If going the non-captured route I would recommend the stainless rod. Just because I THINK it is more durable.

 

[__jb]

I've been doing a little research, and I was pondering trading my gen 2 G23 for a gen 4 G23. I love the platform, and I intend to mod either weapon. (Extended slide stop, 3.5 connector, SS guide rod XS night sights) So I was wondering if it would even be worth the time, the gen 2 is still in great shape and has many years left in her.

Thanks,
Wolf

Only thing I would suggest is to make sure you check out one of the 4th generation 23's first... The grip is a bit rougher... a little different... make sure you like it before you buy one...