[coop]

I am new to the carry thing, still waiting on my license and with the thread about carry a gun with one in the pipe, what happens if you are stopped?
You get stopped for speeding or something else and you are carrying, how do you handle it, when/if the cop ask for your gun?
Really wonder about handing over a gun with one in the pipe.

 

[Don Glock]

they should have advised you of this in your CCW class. in my state you're required to inform the officer you have a permit, and are carrying a gun.

 

[bearone2]

this is from another post on another site about a stop by phx pd.

as of jul 29th, any1 can ccw in az but with many limitations if they don't have azccw.


"I totally blew the red light at 7th ave and dobbins (near PRGC). I get pulled over, officer walks up and I hand him my license and CCW while keeping my hands on the wheel

He asked if a weapon is currently on me, I tell him there is and he just says "OK, don't reach for it". Nice! I was expecting a break-down. After showing him my registration and insurance he told me to slow down and have a nice day (oh yeah, i was speeding while running the light).

He didn't even walk back to his SUV to run my info."

Definitely score one for having a CCW!

fwiw:
i won't and it's not required to state i'm carrying while taliking to pd, sd or dps but if they ask i must declare it or be in violation.

 

[Midnightgallery]

This should have been covered in class , call the instructor and ask since ALL states are different.

As for one in the pipe,just advise the officer if and when asked to hand over your firearm.

 

[sfguard]

Like others have said already it depends on your state law what you are required to do when dealing with LE

 

[bearone2]

This should have been covered in class , call the instructor and ask since ALL states are different.

As for one in the pipe,just advise the officer if and when asked to hand over your firearm.

it is if you have the permit but now folks can carry without a class or range qualification.

 

[coop]

This should have been covered in class , call the instructor and ask since ALL states are different.

As for one in the pipe,just advise the officer if and when asked to hand over your firearm.

that second part is what I would do, just asking others

 

[__jb]

The instructor in my CCW class advised you to put both hands on the steering wheel and not to move fast until the officer understands the situation. If he doesn't ask about a weapon or want to search your car, you are not obligated to inform the officer about the gun (in Florida).

Another thing is to make sure you keep your gun in a different place than where you store your automobile registration. You don't want to reach in your glove compartment for your registration and have a gun show up...

I don't want to be an old fuddy duddy, but I'm not sure letting anyone carry without a class is such a good idea... I think the classes are worthwhile...

 

[Boomer]

Just make sure you declare you have a CCL and if you are carrying or not, and if you are, let the officer know where its at.

 

[TedG954]

Bearone2's scenario is the way I would handle the situation. I have dual residency in Florida and Ohio. Ohio requires notification; Florida doesen't. All the states I drive through, between Florida and Ohio, recognize my CCW license. As an ex-LEO, I can appreciate someone being upfront without it being a surprize. If I am stopped, particularly at night, I follow this procedure:

* As soon as the blue lights come on, I turn on my interior lights.
* Four way flashers.
* Driver's window down.
* Left rear window down.
* Both hands high on the steering wheel.
* When the officer asks for my license, etc, I inform him that it is in my right hip pocket, and I ASK if I can get it.
* With wallet in hand, I give him my driver's license and CCW license.
* If, and when, the officer asks if I'm carrying, I tell him where the gun is located and then follow his instructions explicitly.
* What happens now will depend entirely up to the individual officer. I just hope mine is old and seasoned.

Remember that carrying a concealed weapon is a privledge. It isn't a Second Amendment right. Also remember that the officer has a life and family to go home to. And, just like you, he will defend his life at the slightest provocation.

 

[Tailhunter]

It really is a shame that there is even a time when they might ask for the gun. It is best left in the holster. Just hope I never have to deal with this type senario.

 

[TedG954]

It really is a shame that there is even a time when they might ask for the gun. It is best left in the holster. Just hope I never have to deal with this type senario.

Yes, it is a sad fact. When I was a kid, only bad guys and cops had a need to carry a gun. Now, we all do. I used to think "the good 'ol days" was just a bunch of BS.... but as you get older, you realize how true it is.

 

[bearone2]

The instructor in my CCW class advised you to put both hands on the steering wheel and not to move fast until the officer understands the situation. If he doesn't ask about a weapon or want to search your car, you are not obligated to inform the officer about the gun (in Florida).

Another thing is to make sure you keep your gun in a different place than where you store your automobile registration. You don't want to reach in your glove compartment for your registration and have a gun show up...

I don't want to be an old fuddy duddy, but I'm not sure letting anyone carry without a class is such a good idea... I think the classes are worthwhile...

do you have to qualify on the range in fla or just take a class?

 

[TedG954]

When I got my Florida CC license, we had 4 hours of range instruction. I don't know if that is optional or required for the class. I notice that the gunshows offer CCW classes, and I don't know how or where they would do any range time. In Ohio, my brother-in-law's class used Ruger .22's and had to put 10 rounds on a paper plate at 25'.

As a side note, some of the people in my class had no business carrying a gun. Yes, it is their right, but just not a responsible decision.

 

[bearone2]

The instructor in my CCW class advised you to put both hands on the steering wheel and not to move fast until the officer understands the situation. If he doesn't ask about a weapon or want to search your car, you are not obligated to inform the officer about the gun (in Florida).

Another thing is to make sure you keep your gun in a different place than where you store your automobile registration. You don't want to reach in your glove compartment for your registration and have a gun show up...

I don't want to be an old fuddy duddy, but I'm not sure letting anyone carry without a class is such a good idea... I think the classes are worthwhile...

what is it you're waiting for the le officer to understand, the vehicle was pulled over for something, not to see if the driver is carrying and has a permit.

i asked before, maybe you'll answer it, is there a range requirement in fla for ccw or just a class?

qualifying with a .22 is a joke.

 

[__jb]

do you have to qualify on the range in fla or just take a class?

In Florida you have to take a CWP class taught by an NRA approved instructor and pass a written examination. Additionally, you have to pass a range test. Passing the range test amounts to exhibiting safe gun control and firing the weapons safely. I don't think accuracy is a determining factor in getting a CWP.

A second option for getting a CWP also exists. If you were in the military, you can just send in a copy of your DD-214 in lieu of the CWP class. I was not aware of the DD-214 option before I took the class. I have a DD-214, but the class was still good for me. I don't have much experience with closed carry.

 

[__jb]

When I got my Florida CC license, we had 4 hours of range instruction. I don't know if that is optional or required for the class. I notice that the gunshows offer CCW classes, and I don't know how or where they would do any range time. In Ohio, my brother-in-law's class used Ruger .22's and had to put 10 rounds on a paper plate at 25'.

As a side note, some of the people in my class had no business carrying a gun. Yes, it is their right, but just not a responsible decision.

They taught CWP classes at the Tampa gun show. They had two tables right in the middle of the hall while the gun show was going on... They kept announcing classes and every time I looked they had a lot of people sitting at those tables.

I'm not sure how that works...

 

[__jb]

what is it you're waiting for the le officer to understand, the vehicle was pulled over for something, not to see if the driver is carrying and has a permit.

It was recommended by one of the long time instructors as a way to make sure there is no miscommunication... a step to make sure there are no unfortunate accidents...

It's not required...

 

[jlw]

Unless you are in a state that requires notification to peace officers (not all do), I suggest that you not make issue of having a gun unless it is necessary. Don't carry your pistol in the same compartment with your license/registration/insurance/whatever information, etc.

Unfortunately, there is a training gap in law enforcement in that gun = do something. There is a difference between a citizen going about their business while armed and a thug with a gun.

Whenever I make a stop and citizen tells me they are armed, I simply tell them that I won't touch mine unless they tough theirs.

 

[__jb]

Unless you are in a state that requires notification to peace officers (not all do), I suggest that you not make issue of having a gun unless it is necessary. Don't carry your pistol in the same compartment with your license/registration/insurance/whatever information, etc.

Unfortunately, there is a training gap in law enforcement in that gun = do something. There is a difference between a citizen going about their business while armed and a thug with a gun.

Whenever I make a stop and citizen tells me they are armed, I simply tell them that I won't touch mine unless they tough theirs.

That's a good one...

...good post.