Extreme Forward Cant IWB Holster

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230therapy

Discussion Starter · Nov 29, 2010 (Edited)

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I had been looking for a new gun in 45 ACP. I had a Colt WW I, but it wasn't
a great range gun...more of a collector's piece. I ended up selling it.

I dug around in the safe and came up with the Glock 21. Amazingly enough, it's actually
1/4" shorter than the SIG P220 (due to the extended eight round magazine). The only
reason I haven't used it full-time is because lead bullets can be problematic.*

I've been using a DeSantis Thumb-break Scabbard for carry. It's adequate; the grip of the
gun sticks out too far since the holster does not have much forward cant. I like it for
general use.

I was digging around the 'net and saw an extreme forward cant holster by some small
leather shop. Hmmm. Forward cant improves concealment. Here's what I came up with:

It features the following:

1) Extreme forward cant
2) Patented "Fuel Line Hose Technology" tensioning device
3) Angled rear strap holder
4) Pressed rubber straps so they don't stick out so far
5) Recessed strap holes
6) Protects the magazine release from accidental activation
7) Tension is maintained on the trigger guard
8) Generous sight channel
9) Angled kydex at the muzzle for comfort

* To lead or no lead? That other Glock interwebs has both views. Guys are claiming shooting
thousands of reloads with lead bullets through their Glocks. Other guys are showing
photos of kaBOOMs! My solution is to buy a KKM barrel for range use.

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__jb

· #2 · Nov 29, 2010

230therapy said:
I had been looking for a new gun in 45 ACP. I had a Colt WW I, but it wasn't
a great range gun...more of a collector's piece. I ended up selling it.

I dug around in the safe and came up with the Glock 21. Amazingly enough, it's actually
1/4" shorter than the SIG P220 (due to the extended eight round magazine). The only
reason I haven't used it full-time is because lead bullets can be problematic.*

I've been using a DeSantis Thumb-break Scabbard for carry. It's adequate; the grip of the
gun sticks out too far since the holster does not have much forward cant. I like it for
general use.

I was digging around the 'net and saw an extreme forward cant holster by some small
leather shop. Hmmm. Forward cant improves concealment. Here's what I came up with:

* To lead or no lead? That other Glock interwebs has both views. Guys are claiming shooting
thousands of reloads with lead bullets through their Glocks. Other guys are showing
photos of kaBOOMs! My solution is to buy a KKM barrel for range use.

You must have one heck of a gun safe!

Nice looking holster...

TheLaw

· #3 · Nov 29, 2010

What position do you wear that at?

230therapy

Discussion Starter · #4 · Nov 29, 2010

Strong side 3-4 o'clock

jlw

· #5 · Nov 29, 2010

Maker of the holster?

As for lead bullets, I wouldn't shoot them through the OEM barrel.

VolGrad

· #6 · Nov 29, 2010

I don't recognize the maker of that holster either but recently ran across one that makes an extreme cant (25 degrees) Kydex on another forum.

Secret City Weaponeers

Their website only has leather but you can contact him for his kydex version. If you want pics use GOOGLE and find the M4C thread. I've been corresponding with him via PM and was supposed to hook up with him over the past weekend back home in TN but we ran out of time. He was going to show me this and some of the other designs he's working on.

230therapy

Discussion Starter · #7 · Nov 29, 2010

I built the holster as "research" into finding a more efficient way to hide a Glock 21.

230therapy

Discussion Starter · #8 · Nov 30, 2010 (Edited)

I've been practicing my draw with this holster for the past two nights. I made the tension at the trigger guard a bit tight. I can easily fix that with a 10 second blast from a heat gun.

The holster does require more of an angled pull than a regular holster. It's not really a problem since my grip tells me which way I have to pull. It's just a bit more forward, though the gun won't come free if I pull mostly up.

Another problem is that the holster prints at the top part of the pants pocket. This is the muzzle area of the gun. Again, not really a big deal since I tend to wear long shirts. If I wear a shorter shirt, then I'll wear a smaller Glock.

The advantage of this holster is that it prevents the grip of the gun from printing when I sit down. The forward edge of the magazine does not extend more than 1/4" past my kidney when seated.

Mission accomplished (except for some tweaking).

230therapy

Discussion Starter · #9 · Nov 30, 2010

You may have noticed that the holster is not heavily molded to the gun. This is intentional; I dislike holsters that show every detail of the gun. The reason is wear on the kydex. Drawing the gun tears the kydex and very tight molding results in quite a bit of wear on the inside of the holster.

I heat the kydex at 325. Normally, I wait until the sheet is floppy. In this instance, I pulled it out early so it was starting to harden by the time I closed the press. I used a heat gun to remove 98% of the molded kydex that pressed into the ejection port. Doing so helps reduce "kydex sawdust" on the slide and in the action.

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__jb

· #10 · Nov 30, 2010

230therapy said:
You may have noticed that the holster is not heavily molded to the gun. This is intentional; I dislike holsters that show every detail of the gun. The reason is wear on the kydex. Drawing the gun tears the kydex and very tight molding results in quite a bit of wear on the inside of the holster.

I heat the kydex at 325. Normally, I wait until the sheet is floppy. In this instance, I pulled it out early so it was starting to harden by the time I closed the press. I used a heat gun to remove 98% of the molded kydex that pressed into the ejection port. Doing so helps reduce "kydex sawdust" on the slide and in the action.

Thanks for all the info...

You have obviously put a lot on time and thought into this holster... Thanks for sharing some of your thoughts and techniques with us...

230therapy

Discussion Starter · #11 · Dec 2, 2010

Here's the inspiration for the holster:

http://www.dmbullardleather.com/1429711.html

__jb

· #12 · Dec 2, 2010

Interesting...

I can't imagine carrying a revolver in one of those holsters... I would think the trigger would really poke you...

230therapy

Discussion Starter · #13 · Dec 27, 2014

UPDATE:

I updated the holster. I had not spent much time with it because it gripped the gun too tightly. I got out the heat gun and loosened up the kydex holding the gun at the trigger guard. It now draws well.

Otintx

· #14 · Dec 27, 2014

Thnkx for the follow up.

WalterGA

· #15 · Dec 27, 2014

I have a Sidermor iwb with 20* cant for my G26. Can't carry a G21!
.

230therapy

Discussion Starter · #16 · Dec 28, 2014

WalterGA said:
I have a Sidermor iwb with 20* cant for my G26. Can't carry a G21!
.

That is the purpose of the holster: to be able to carry the large frame Glock IWB without printing. This accomplishes this goal.

Furthermore, I modified the holster a bit more today:

1) Relieved the inside near the tang. The kydex was interfering with achieving a grip.
2) Relieved the area on the outside between the tang and mag release. This was just annoying.
3) Rounded out the muzzle area and it prints less.

I have been carrying the gun all day. It is very comfortable and the mag's base plate does not go more than 1/2" past my back.

230therapy

Discussion Starter · #17 · Dec 28, 2014

By the way, the purpose of the holes forward of the front strap is to set the depth and angle. The second one sometimes works better with some pants.

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230therapy

Discussion Starter · #18 · Dec 28, 2014 (Edited)

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Here is the updated holster. You can see the relief cuts between the tang and mag release on both sides. This makes for a much more comfortable draw.

The muzzle area has also been rounded. It is now approximately 1/8" to 3/16" shorter and does not print at the back pocket as badly.

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230therapy

Discussion Starter · #19 · Dec 28, 2014 (Edited)

This photo shows two additional holes I added awhile back. These are for loops mounted on the face of the holster to make it behave like any other IWB holster once the rear wing is removed. The cant is perhaps 20 degrees; the grip prints a bit unless I wear a sweatshirt, vest or similar.

Notice the straps are creased (accomplished with a quick blast from a heat gun and pressing it with a block of wood). This is intentional. Blade-Tech rubber straps (acquired from knifekits.com) are ridiculously loose for the stated belt size. The Comp-Tac belt shown is 1.5" wide, but the straps are set for 1 1/4". This setting makes for a tight fit to the belt.

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230therapy

Discussion Starter · #20 · Dec 28, 2014 (Edited)

Oh, and by the way, I dug around in the safe some more and found a Glock 21 Gen 4. The original Glock 21 seems to have escaped to parts unknown.

Overall, I am satisfied with this prototype. I will carry it for awhile and see how it goes. It's quite comfortable with a t-shirt between myself and the holster. I recall this holster feels a bit rough with no undershirt.

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