better replacement for S&W SW9VE for CCW/EDC

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Owl1024

Discussion Starter · Dec 28, 2010

I currently own a bulky Smith & Wesson SW9VE 9mm 16+1. I CCW in a bulky 'belly band'-type holster (can't think of the name...just waking up). I want to replace the 9mm with a .40 S&W. Which would be the better pistol for CCW: the G23 or the G27? The G27's smaller than the G23, but the re-coil would probably be more-harsh than the G23...advantage G23; the G23 holds more rounds, but part of the reason I want to go up to .40 S&W is stopping power with fewer bullets: advantage G27. Flip a coin, perhaps?

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sfguard

· #2 · Dec 28, 2010

Well, in my opinion (it is worth what it cost you to get it) I would go with the 23. It is not that much bigger than the 27. Making recoil a little more manageable due to size and ability to get a full hand on the grip of the pistol. Many people put the pinky extension on the 27 after seeing how hard it can recoil. They have just lost the size difference and should have went with the 23 for the more ammo in the first place.

So, in terms of something I can get my big hands on, handle better during recoil, and ammo capacity for me the answer is only to obvious. But then again that is me. Good luck and let us know what you decide on

Owl1024

Discussion Starter · #3 · Dec 28, 2010

sfguard said:
Well, in my opinion (it is worth what it cost you to get it) I would go with the 23. It is not that much bigger than the 27. Making recoil a little more manageable due to size and ability to get a full hand on the grip of the pistol. Many people put the pinky extension on the 27 after seeing how hard it can recoil. They have just lost the size difference and should have went with the 23 for the more ammo in the first place.

So, in terms of something I can get my big hands on, handle better during recoil, and ammo capacity for me the answer is only to obvious. But then again that is me. Good luck and let us know what you decide on

I know this is a Glock forum, so opinions will be biased. Nevertheless, what's your opinion on the Beretta PX4 .40?

sfguard

· #4 · Dec 28, 2010

Owl1024 said:
I know this is a Glock forum, so opinions will be biased. Nevertheless, what's your opinion on the Beretta PX4 .40?

Everyone here knows I go with what works for me. I have numerous Glocks but have no allegance to them or anything. If I find something else that I like better than I get one. That said, I have a PX4 but in 9mm. It is a awesome gun! Very, very accurate and also soft recoiling. The spinning barrel design is great and really reduces felt recoil. I am not sure why more companies have not further developed it. It is not new technology. It is not even Beretta technology. The first spinning barrel pistol was developed back in 1908 I think it was. Anyway, I will start to ramble if I don't get back on track.

I can honestly say I have won money shooting 22 casings off a board at 35 feet off hand with my PX4 without hitting the board. If I could use it in GSSF (limited only to Glock pistols) I would take it in a heartbeat. The pistol while being kinda on the ugly side more than makes up for it in performance. If you are considering one I would highly recommend it. Even over a Glock

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Owl1024

Discussion Starter · #5 · Dec 28, 2010

Ugly doesn't matter to me; reliability and capability to shoot accurately matter, as does concealability/CCW.

sbrenner

· #6 · Dec 28, 2010

Look at the Glock 38 or 39 will give you more of what you want.

230therapy

· #7 · Dec 28, 2010

Gen 3:

Glock 27 has a dual recoil spring. It softens recoil a bit. I do notice a difference between my G19 and G26...with the G26 being softer.

Gen 4:

Probably not much difference between the G23 and G27 since they have the new recoil system.

Given the way you carry, I'd recommend the G27. You now have options since you can use G23 magazines or the shorter G27 magazine.

The G27 will be just as accurate as the G23.

Owl1024

Discussion Starter · #8 · Dec 29, 2010

Those are .45's. Thanks, but I'm looking for a .40.

Owl1024

Discussion Starter · #9 · Dec 29, 2010

230therapy said:
Gen 3:

Glock 27 has a dual recoil spring. It softens recoil a bit. I do notice a difference between my G19 and G26...with the G26 being softer.

Gen 4:

Probably not much difference between the G23 and G27 since they have the new recoil system.

Given the way you carry, I'd recommend the G27. You now have options since you can use G23 magazines or the shorter G27 magazine.

The G27 will be just as accurate as the G23.

My current carry set-up is a Smart Carry.

Owl1024

Discussion Starter · #10 · Jan 1, 2011 (Edited)

Resolved: to save enough money to purchase the Glock 27 or Glock 39...leaning toward the 39

sbrenner

· #11 · Jan 1, 2011

Why do you want something...

Owl1024 said:
Those are .45's. Thanks, but I'm looking for a .40.

Less effective and with more recoil?

You should investigate and shoot the .45 gap and a 4-t!

All who have shot both report the .45 gap easy shooting and shoots to point of aim Spot on!

I have shot and carried the 4-t in the SO for many years. No Good for what it is.

Too much recoil and smaller pay load than the .45 gap.

I would take a .357 sig (.357 auto) over the 4-t better results according to the Texas Dept of Public Saftey. Our highway patrol.

Butt, this is for your knowlege from one who has had both the Police range.

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Owl1024

Discussion Starter · #12 · Jan 1, 2011

sbrenner said:
Less effective and with more recoil?

You should investigate and shoot the .45 gap and a 4-t!

All who have shot both report the .45 gap easy shooting and shoots to point of aim Spot on!

I have shot and carried the 4-t in the SO for many years. No Good for what it is.

Too much recoil and smaller pay load than the .45 gap.

I would take a .357 sig (.357 auto) over the 4-t better results according to the Texas Dept of Public Saftey. Our highway patrol.

Butt, this is for your knowlege from one who has had both the Police range.

How about a .45 ACP?

TheLaw

· #13 · Jan 1, 2011

The issue with the 45 ACP GLOCKs in my opinion are that they are too big for average sized hands. The G21 is HUGE. Now they have come out with the SF models and that might help in that arena but I also heard the 21sf model had some issues.

The G38 shoots 45 GAP, in a frame the exact same size as the G19. (The slide is wider on the G38) The recoil is surprisingly light for a cartridge that has the same ballistics as the 45 ACP. If there is a range or buddy that you can try one at, it's worth a look. I really enjoy mine!

Owl1024

Discussion Starter · #14 · Jan 1, 2011 (Edited)

sbrenner said:
Less effective and with more recoil?

You should investigate and shoot the .45 gap and a 4-t!

All who have shot both report the .45 gap easy shooting and shoots to point of aim Spot on!

I have shot and carried the 4-t in the SO for many years. No Good for what it is.

Too much recoil and smaller pay load than the .45 gap.

I would take a .357 sig (.357 auto) over the 4-t better results according to the Texas Dept of Public Saftey. Our highway patrol.

Butt, this is for your knowlege from one who has had both the Police range.

So: Glock 36, 37, 38 or 39...and why?

TheLaw

· #15 · Jan 2, 2011

For me, using it for carry, the 38 is the one. Again, same exact size as the G19 with the much more powerful round. Magazine holds 8 + 1 in the pipe but coming from the 1911 platform, the round count was the same for me. I might get a G39 one day when I have some money laying around or when I win one at the next GSSF match.

Owl1024

Discussion Starter · #16 · Jan 3, 2011

Glock 30, 36, or 39 for carry, and why?

Thank you.

Owl1024

Sheepdog808

· #17 · Jan 4, 2011

I am a big fan of the G27. On duty I carry a G35 and the G27 is carried in a pocket holster on my reactionary side (front pocket). The bonus of the G23 is that you can attach a light and carry it as so. Believe it or not here in AZ when i'm not working, i carry my G35 concealed about 50% of the time and the G27 the other.

Final answer for me is G27. Some have an issue w/ recoil but with training and practice (2 different things) it wouldn't be a problem.

deeGman

· #18 · Jan 23, 2011

Glock 32 EDC but my month old 36 is getting taken more and more. The .357sig has always amazed me plus for SD its incredible. My right leg 4 leg surgeries hip x2 so the 36 carries in my pocket with a spare mag and using Golden Sabres or GoldDots .45 +P no worries.

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