i'm not going to get in a gunfight in a mall/7-11/circle k/ad nauseum..... but if i happen to be in the area, i will take up a defensive position and if the bg comes looking to eliminate witnesses, bang bang, game/set/match.Obviously, this is a tragic occurrance.
The whole situation will be a rally point for the anti-gun establishment. This is to be expected.
The one thing that I really find strange is that Arizona has always given me the impression of being a "carry-heavy" state. With that said, I was surprized that no one within the crowd of shoppers and viewers was armed. I carry when I go to the grocery store, so I assume that other licensed folks also arm themselves.
This sad story could have had a 2nd Amendment endorsement if a licensed goodguy would have ended the situation with 8 or 10 well-placed rounds in the attacker's head as soon as the first shot was fired.
It was a shopping center with a grocery store and other shops. My interpretation of the quote is "people in a public place" such a people in a shopping center attending to normal business. I'm not much for the duck-n-run crowd, so I guess if I had been there, I might have gotten in trouble. In any case, someone with a legal weapon may have saved lives and serious injuries.One of the areas off limits in AZ:
2. "Public event" means a specifically named or sponsored event of limited duration that is either conducted by a public entity or conducted by a private entity with a permit or license granted by a public entity. Public event does not include an unsponsored gathering of people in a public place.
not sure where you're getting your facts but this is what's off limits in az, taken from faq's from az dps cwp unit:One of the areas off limits in AZ:
2. "Public event" means a specifically named or sponsored event of limited duration that is either conducted by a public entity or conducted by a private entity with a permit or license granted by a public entity. Public event does not include an unsponsored gathering of people in a public place.
I don't argue with you there, I am sure someone could have saved some lives but it was a "Public Event" organized by a "Public Entity" or at least that is how I read that portion. I don't know how the law would react if you were just there conducting normal business or if you even could during that time.It was a shopping center with a grocery store and other shops. My interpretation of the quote is "people in a public place" such a people in a shopping center attending to normal business. I'm not much for the duck-n-run crowd, so I guess if I had been there, I might have gotten in trouble. In any case, someone with a legal weapon may have saved lives and serious injuries.
Maybe my referrance are out dated but I still think it could fall under this section, not sure and I wasn't there.not sure where you're getting your facts but this is what's off limits in az, taken from faq's from az dps cwp unit:
Are there any firearm restrictions?
•State or local government/private establishments or events when asked by the operator/sponsor/agent. Most government facilities will provide a location to temporarily store a firearm. Persons who refuse to leave and/or secure their weapon are trespassing and can be cited or arrested for ARS 13-1502 or ARS 13-1503, depending on the venue (peace officers are excepted)
your 1st comment was vague and i'm not sure where you're going with this statement. just what difference would it have made if you had been there.Maybe my referrance are out dated but I still think it could fall under this section, not sure and I wasn't there.
I have spent some time in AZ, the Benson area. At this time I am not in AZ, that is what "Traveling the usa" means, I travel and need to look into many different state and thier laws on CC.your 1st comment was vague and i'm not sure where you're going with this statement. just what difference would it have made if you had been there.
i live in az and deal with the issues here personally, not really sure what "traveling the usa" means.
